Saturday 4 October 2014

Hong Kong update - 10/03/2014

The Guardian returns to its colonialist roots.

Just so we understand the pro-government demonstrators are “thugs” while nazis that shoot people in the neck and burn people in a trade union building in Odessa are not.

What are we to call that?


Hong Kong protesters beaten 

and bloodied as thugs attack 

sit-in

Thugs punched and kicked pro-democracy protesters in Hong Kong on Friday night, shedding blood as they tore down demonstrators’ tents and attempted to forced them out.



3 October, 2014


Student leaders called off talks with the government – offered the previous night – accusing officials of allowing violence to be used against them. It dashed the hopes of a resolution to a mass movement that saw tens of thousands take to the streets of the city at its height.

The veteran democracy activist Martin Lee and Occupy Central leader Benny Tai blamed triads for the violence in Mong Kok, a densely populated area also popular with shoppers. The area is known for its gang presence.

Lee told the South China Morning Post: “It was very ugly in Mong Kok, clearly the anti-Occupy people deliberately caused a scene and created trouble, giving police an excuse.”

An injured pro-democracy protester receives medical attention in Hong Kong


An injured pro-democracy protester receives medical attention in Hong Kong.Photograph: Alex Hofford/EPA


He alleged: “Because of the presence of the international press, the police won’t use teargas again to throw the people away. So they use these triad society members to create a scene and threaten the people. We are peace-loving and we are getting injured.”

Tearful and bleeding students were escorted from the junction of Argyle and Nathan roads by police as a crowd of thousands jeered and a number of men lashed out at them.

More than a hundred protesters stood firm, linking arms to protect more vulnerable members of the crowd sheltering beneath their remaining tent, despite appeals from protest leaders to leave the scene for their own safety.

Demonstrators were already angry that Leung Chun-ying had not resigned as chief executive and had little faith in the promise of dialogue bringing changes.

One used a microphone to tell police they would only leave after officers cleared the crowd.

I am frightened, but we have to stand up to fight for our beliefs and our city,” said another.

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10.30pm at Mong Kok - still a huge crowd of onlookers
The area had already seen angry confrontations between protesters and residents who said the occupation had disrupted their lives and damaged business – reflected in the large number of bystanders yelling at the remaining demonstrators.

We are in China. If you don’t like it go away. This is the fucking motherland,” said a middle-aged member of the crowd who gave his name as CL Fu. He said he was a resident and was angry about the disruption caused by the inconvenience.

Of course we love China but we are worried about damage to Hong Kong economics. That’s why we’re here,” he added.

But the scale and nature of the attack suggested organised violence and the police presence remained meagre. Reinforcements did not arrive until the violence had been going on for hours.

Police sought to protect students from assaults by linking arms as men tried to force their way through their lines, spat and threw objects at the students, but they were woefully outnumbered for most of the evening.

The police will take appropriate action” in Mong Kok, said a spokesperson from the Hong Kong police force. “We will deploy enough police to the scene to help safeguard safety and restore public order.” She refused to comment on the number of officers that had been dispatched, or whether they were ordinary or riot police.

An AFP journalist wrote on Twitter that, when she asked an officer how many of his colleagues were present, she was told: “I also want to know. There are not enough police.” Some journalists also reported being assaulted by crowd members.

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Asked obviously overwhelmed policeman how many of them in : "I also want to know. There is not enough police"
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Officers warned the students repeatedly to leave Mong Kok, saying they were disturbing public order. A couple of hours later they urged the opposing crowd to leave and stop blocking the road, to loud boos.

Policewoman now asks anti- protest crowd to leave telling them they are blocking road. Booed and jeered.

In Causeway Bay, also the scene of attacks, men shoved female students and shouted: “If you come to the protests, prepare to be sexually harassed,” a Hong Kong journalist, Grace Tsoi, reported on Twitter.

Thousands of demonstrators arrived at the main protest site at Admiralty as news of the violence at other locations spread. There was angry confrontation with police at entrance to government offices. Students raised their hands in the air as a scuffle broke out.

Protests had ebbed earlier in the day after the chief executive’s announcement that he had asked the chief secretary, Carrie Lam, to speak to student representatives, as they had requested.

Protest leaders continued to call for Leung to quit, saying the dialogue would focus only on political reform.

Hong Kong residents knew that Beijing’s promise of universal suffrage for the election of the next chief executive in 2017 would come with onerous conditions. But they were angered by the toughness of the rules announced, describing the plans as “fake democracy”.

Pro-democracy protesters link arms to protect a barricade from counter-demonstrators in Hong KongPro-democracy protesters link arms to protect a barricade from counter-demonstrators in Hong Kong. Photograph: Philippe Lopez/AFP/Getty Images

The row has come to epitomise broader concerns about Beijing’s growing assertiveness in the region and the erosion of the rights and freedoms Hong Kong enjoys – such as freedom of expression and an independent judiciary – under the “one country, two systems” framework.

In Mong Kok, Angus Chan said he believed the assaults were an attempt to provoke protesters into retaliation.

People are throwing things at us. They want to make it chaos,” said Chan, 23, who works in the financial sector.

Andy Chan, 58, said he believed students should leave the site because the occupation could not go on too long and they were disrupting people’s lives. But he had come to protect them because he was so angry when he heard they were being beaten.

I’m old – I don’t scare,” he said.

Other people want to make the students crazy. They will have an excuse to use violence if we use violence and will say we’re barbarians.

I think they are organised. I can’t prove 100% who they are.

They [the government] are trying to use the people to fight against the people. The cops are just going to stand here and watch – they are doing nothing about people breaking laws.”

For much of the evening police simply removed those trying to assault students from the crowd and released them outside the area. Some of those later returned to the scene.

After several hours police appeared to begin formally detaining some of the men.



This is the official Chinese line - Hong Kong gov't urges immediate end to Occupy Central

The Hong Kong government issued a statement on Thursday, urging protesters to put an end to Occupy Central protests.


From Press TV

Hong Kong protests ‘doomed 

to fail’

Traffic resumes after protestors briefly managed to block a road near the government offices in Hong Kong on October 2, 2014.
Traffic resumes after protestors briefly managed to block a road near the government offices in Hong Kong on October 2, 2014.

3 October, 2014


The official Chinese newspaper the People’s Daily says the demonstrations being held in Hong Kong to demand more electoral freedom are “doomed to fail,” as protesters agree to hold talks with the region’s government authorities.

The protesters’ demands are “neither legal nor reasonable,” read an editorial in the People’s Daily, AFP reported Friday.
The protests are “against legal principles, and doomed to fail,” read the front-page piece, adding that “There is no room to make concessions on important principles” during expected talks between the protest leaders and Hong Kong’s regional authorities.

The unrest in Hong Kong was triggered after China refused to allow open nominations for the city’s next chief executive in 2017. The National People’s Congress said in an August ruling that candidates have to be nominated by a committee.

The Chinese daily piece read, “Upholding the decision of the standing committee of the National People’s Congress is the necessary decision, and the only decision.”

China has said it will introduce universal suffrage for the city’s 2017 election but has insisted that a committee must approve the candidates.
In reaction, protesters have demanded that Chief Executive Leung Chun-ying step down.

The protests have been gaining momentum in the recent past, with the protesters launching a campaign of occupying government buildings in Hong Kong. Despite their agreement to hold talks, the occupy protesters have said they would maintain their “occupying actions” if their demands are not met.

Hong Kong is a special administrative region of China. The financial hub has enjoyed substantial political autonomy since 1997, when its leadership returned to China after about a century of British colonial rule


For whatever reason these events are scarcely on the radar 

of RT. There is certainly enough happening elsewhere for 

them to be concentrating on.


Western media have ignored or cheered on nazi outrages in 

Ukraine -somaybe they are returning the compliment


This from Ruptly

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