Sunday 12 October 2014

MH-17

Kiev secretly received data from MH17 crash investigators – Ukrainian hacktivists

Members of a group of international experts inspect the site where the downed Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 crashed, near the village of Hrabove (Grabovo) in Donetsk region, eastern Ukraine. (Reuters / Sergei Karpukhin)

Ukrainian CyberBerkut hacktivists claim that they have penetrated the internal network of Ukraine’s Defense Ministry and found proof that Kiev is getting secret data from MH17 crash investigators, including information which implies its involvement.

A document, posted on the website cyber-berkut.net, and allegedly downloaded from Ukraine’s Defense Ministry network, dates back to August 7 and appears to be signed by Colonel Igor Zorin, the chief of Ukraine’s air defense forces. It is a report which maintains that a fragment of a projectile found together with the debris of the crashed flight MH17 is in fact a damage agent of a 9M38 surface-to-air guided missile belonging to the mobile air defense complex Buk or Buk M1.

Photo scans allegedly depicting the fragment in question have been also posted.

The document acknowledged that a specific rectangular shape of the fragment pointed out that it could belong to a 9N314 warhead of the 9M38 anti-aircraft missile.

It was suggested that the final conclusion could be made after analyzing the original fragments depicted in the photographs.
image from http://cyber-berkut.net
image from http://cyber-berkut.net


CyberBerkut claimed that the documents are evidence that the MH17 crash investigation commission and the Ukraine Defense Ministry have special relations.”

Meanwhile, Ex-Air Defense deputy chief, military expert Aleksandr Tazekhulakhov told RT that judging by the photo, the fragment is deformed to the extent that it is impossible to independently define its form which is very important for the final conclusion.
The metal fragment depicted in the photo can’t be identified as part of any ballistic missile warhead. It can be whatever,” he said. Only after several types of tests, such as ballistic, chemical and spectral analysis, can any conclusion be made.

The Dutch Safety Board, which is investigating the MH17 crash, released a preliminary report in September stating that the plane broke up in the air probably as the result of structural damage caused by a large number of high-energy objects that penetrated the aircraft from outside.”

image from http://cyber-berkut.net
image fromhttp://cyber-berkut.net
image from http://cyber-berkut.net
image from http://cyber-berkut.net
The commission said that the full report on the catastrophe is set to be released within a year of the crash,” as the investigators want to further analyze the data and the wreckage.”


Buk and Buk M1 missile systems were developed by the Soviet Union and entered into service in the late 1970s and in early 1980s.
Earlier this week, a source in Russia’s Defense Ministry told RIA Novosti news agency that after the fall of the Soviet Union, a number of such systems remained in Ukraine and today Kiev possesses no less than 70 Buk M1 systems.
According to open sources, the Russian army operates only Buk-M1-2 and Buk-M2 missile systems – the latest modified versions developed after Ukraine became independent in 1991.
The source also accused Valentin Nalivaichenko, head of the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU), of inadvertently leaking that the MH17 Boeing-777-200 crash in July was caused by an outdated missile that only Ukrainian army still operates.

RIA Novosti's source also said that on the day the MH17 was shot down, Ukraine’s 156th SAM regiment carried out an unauthorized missile launch.
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MH17 crash: Ukraine security chief says missile only Kiev has may be found at crash site


Emergencies Ministry members walk at the site of a Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 plane crash, MH17, near the settlement of Grabovo in the Donetsk region, July 17, 2014. (Reuters/Maxim Zmeyev)

RT,
10 October, 2014

In the early 1980s, the Soviet Union’s defense industry egan production of the Buk-M1, an extremely effective, medium-range missile defense system.
Many of the Buk-M1s were stationed on the country’s western borders, on the territory of three regions in the Ukraine Soviet Socialist Republic.
After the fall of the Soviet Union, all those systems remained in Ukraine and today Kiev possesses no less than 70 such systems, RIA Novosti’s source said.
According to open sources, the Russian army operates over 350 Buk-M1-2 and Buk-M2 missile systems, with only the latest modified versions developed after Ukraine became independent in 1991 with the fall of the USSR. Russia’s modified versions came into operation in the late 1990s, and now have completely replaced the older, Soviet missile systems.
The Russian military expert stressed that Russia has no modernized” Buk air defense systems.

Russia operates over 350 Buk missile systems, all of them of the latest versions of the Buk M1-2 and Buk M2, he said.
When Mr Nalivaichenko mentions a ‘modernized Buk’ system, he probably means an air defense system that was upgraded by the Ukrainian defense industry. We know that Ukraine has been working in this direction,” the source said, adding that the information about the modernization of Ukrainian Buk systems was confirmed in late June on the Ukrainian Defense Ministry’s website, which reported renovated missile systems becoming operational.

This happened just a few weeks before the Malaysian Airlines Boeing-777-200 was shot down in Ukrainian airspace on July 17.
According to the source in Russia’s Joint Staff, any unauthorized modification of the electronics of complicated military hardware would do no good, as it would degrade the accuracy of the weapon.
Originally, all Buk air defense systems operated in Ukraine were produced at the high-security Research Institute of Instrumentation plant in the Moscow Region.
“"The confusion and inconsistency of Nalivaichenko’s responses leaves no doubt that he mentioned a plan that definitely had not been developed by the SBU, but rather brought in the other day from their overseas mentors,” the Joint Staff source said. This is Nalivaichenko and his big mouth blunder.”

On the day that the MH17 was shot down, Ukraine’s 156th SAM regiment carried out an unauthorized missile launch, an emergency situation that is being investigated by the SBU and obviously being hushed up by Kiev authorities, the official said.

You don’t need to be a genius to put together the elements of this puzzle and understand what kind of a picture Mr Nalivaichnko is attempting to sell us,” the source at Russia’s Joint Staff said.



krainian Security Service Chairman Valentin Nalivaichenko. (RIA Novosti/Alexandr Maksimenko)

In the early 1980s, the Soviet Union’s defense industry began production of the Buk-M1, an extremely effective, medium-range missile defense system.

Many of the Buk-M1s were stationed on the country’s western borders, on the territory of three regions in the Ukraine Soviet Socialist Republic.

After the fall of the Soviet Union, all those systems remained in Ukraine and today Kiev possesses no less than 70 such systems, RIA Novosti’s source said.

According to open sources, the Russian army operates over 350 Buk-M1-2 and Buk-M2 missile systems, with only the latest modified versions developed after Ukraine became independent in 1991 with the fall of the USSR. Russia’s modified versions came into operation in the late 1990s, and now have completely replaced the older, Soviet missile systems.

The Russian military expert stressed that Russia has no “modernized” Buk air defense systems.

Russia operates over 350 Buk missile systems, all of them of the latest versions of the Buk M1-2 and Buk M2, he said.

When Mr Nalivaichenko mentions a ‘modernized Buk’ system, he probably means an air defense system that was upgraded by the Ukrainian defense industry. We know that Ukraine has been working in this direction,” the source said, adding that the information about the modernization of Ukrainian Buk systems was confirmed in late June on the Ukrainian Defense Ministry’s website, which reported renovated missile systems becoming operational.

This happened just a few weeks before the Malaysian Airlines Boeing-777-200 was shot down in Ukrainian airspace on July 17.

According to the source in Russia’s Joint Staff, any unauthorized modification of the electronics of complicated military hardware would do no good, as it would degrade the accuracy of the weapon.

Originally, all Buk air defense systems operated in Ukraine were produced at the high-security Research Institute of Instrumentation plant in the Moscow Region.

The confusion and inconsistency of Nalivaichenko’s responses leaves no doubt that he mentioned a plan that definitely had not been developed by the SBU, but rather brought in the other day from their overseas mentors,” the Joint Staff source said. “This is Nalivaichenko and his big mouth blunder.”

On the day that the MH17 was shot down, Ukraine’s 156th SAM regiment carried out an unauthorized missile launch, an emergency situation that is being investigated by the SBU and obviously being hushed up by Kiev authorities, the official said.

You don’t need to be a genius to put together the elements of this puzzle and understand what kind of a picture Mr Nalivaichnko is attempting to sell us,” the source at Russia’s Joint Staff said.

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